Tom wrote:
>>> (look at Wii sales!!).
>>
>> You can't really count the Wii, it's not a gamers console.
>
> It is a gaming console no matter how you look at it
True, I was probably being over glib about that, sorry. I just don't
considers the Wii to have the same target audience asthe PS3/360/PC.
> It would be interesting to see how many former avid PC gamers have just
> quit it and made the switch to consoles and not looked back. I was there
> for a few years.
I was there for a few months.
>>> I am, for the most part, one of them, except I am an RPG freak, they
>>> are better on PC, but I somehow think that won't last much longer
>>> going into the next gen.
>>
>>> The PC market is certainly not dead, but it is a nearly complete
>>> shell of its former self and game sales and especially hardware sales
>>> even reflect that.
>>
>> That's my point and the point that a couple of people seem to ignore.
>> I'm not saying that the PC will make some massive comeback I'm simply
>> saying that it will probably have a slight but noticeable improvement
>> if the next generation of consoles doesn't come out PDQ, and that it's
>> not dead, as die-hard console fanatics seem to think. They seem to
>> read this as "the PC will come to conquer us all."
>
> I didn't really notice anyone ignoring your words, but you do seem to be
> very dismissive of the sales points and the well known gaming
> preferences today,
No dismissive at all, I been very happy to admit that a lot more games
are sold on consoles and that it's a far more lucrative section of the
market. What I'm not happy to concede is that PC gaming is dead or that
joint developed multi format games are the sole domain of the consoles.
Basic common sense, if developers are investing the time and money in
a PC version then there's a substantial amount of money to be made from
PC gaming still. I'm not saying that
> consoles have been and still are the gaming grade of
> choice for "most" gamers, not PCs. I actually do not see it making an
> improvement in sales or even growing as a base. I couldn't even say that
> PC sales will make even a small improvement since the decline has been
> very long, since the mid to late 90s this has been happening. Did you
> see PC rigs sales ramping up while the PS1 and PS2 were selling over
> 100m each, as an example? Another fact about PC gaming is that some
> games require really high end systems to be able to run them.
In real terms this is actually vary few though these days. Crysis need
a stupidly high spec, and the Witcher wasn't that much better (I'm
chalking that one up to bad programming because it wasn't that much to
look at)
Bioshock (as I mentioned earlier) and Fallout 3 for example both ran
nicely on mid range rigs.
>
> I have been a PC gamer going back two decades, but with the arrival of
> the og Xbox, what it did online and what it offered graphically, my
> gaming preference swung totally 180º.
I expanded rather than switched around the same time Assassin's Creed
came out. At the time it was a very bad patch for the PC releases
since then however I've been gradually going back. Most cross platform
games I get are for the PC (my PC was highish spec about 2.5 years ago),
I have a friend who is in prety much the same situation. For me the
630/PS3 are for games that arn't out on the PC or I think would be more
suited to a control pad.
> consider paying for. Mass Effect, though I loved it on the 360, just
> because of its storyline, was sorely lacking graphically and by way of
> using commands and changing items/weapons, that I made the swing to a
> new rig knowing ME2 is about to arrive.
I've opted for that on the 360 just because I've alread y got ME1 on the
that format and I want to import my save game. It's a couple of game
that I'm seriously considering getting on both formats though.
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